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I should have read before pressing the upgrade button...
It took some 40 minutes for Opera 9.5 to import 130000 messages.
And now I'm waiting for 19 minutes for a window to show up after restarting the mail client.

So: _Do_ make a backup!

Still hoping,
Sebastian

"Permanent delete=1" is a dumb default and should be changed

Overall it is sad that I will not able to upgrade my home Opera M2 to new one, because of one stupid "improvement" in interface. Instead of improving e-mail status bar you just removed it completly and include unuseful and oversimplified one. :(
I have seven e-mail accounts and I miss old e-mail status bar which was not perfect but useful.

It would've been nice to have some indication that once the mail had been converted there was no way to go back so I could've made a backup before I converted. Now I'm stuck with 9.5 and desperately want to go back to 9.27.

"Attention POP users: If users with POP accounts set to "Leave messages on server" empty their trash, Opera will delete the trashed messages on the server."

And the purpose of this would be...?

I upgraded three computers from 9,27 to 9.5 and all went well. On my wife's computer, however, when I started 9.5 it didn't ask if I wanted to convert the mail files. Now I have no mail accounts and can't access her old mail. How do I convince 9.5 to see the mail and convert it?

I rather like having the function of deleting mail on the server automatically when I delete it locally on the systems where I have selected "leave messages on the server". I always hesitate to check my mail on computers other than my main one because I'll end up with 40 or 50 messages to wade through and then I will still have to wade through them again on the main computer. If I can delete the ones I don't care about, then when I go to my main computer, only the ones that I really want will still be on the server.

I upgraded from 9,27 to 9.5 and all went well. When I started 9.5 it didn't ask if I wanted to convert the mail files. Speed really improved. Everything was there relations, the wand, notes but no e-mail account or e-mail. Then I used the option import E-mail from Opera 7/8/9.
That worked fine the accounts info appeared and all the e-mails where imported.
My biggest problem is that all the e-mails are in one filter, I hate the idea of sorting 2100 e-mails in new filters.

How can I import the old filters ??

The Check/Send button no longer changes into a Stop button during server communication. Users that have customized the toolbar won't get the new button and the old button will permanently be stuck at Stop. Reset the toolbar to fix the problem.

How does one reset the toolbar?

I miss that mail status bar, too. It was always turned on in Opera 9.27 on my computer, as I have multiple email accounts and hundreds of feeds. You could just see, when Opera was working and more specifically which account was hanging.

Upgrading went rather well. A few filters seem to be broken and must be retrained. All the feed downloading is no real problem, but getting rather old messages from 2005-2007 on low-traffic sites is a bit odd. Just have to deleted most of that messages over time, I guess. :)

One error though: I've got one IMAP account, that shows up in the mail panel for each of the eight folders it has. Setting IMAP root etc. doesn't help. Odd.
Just look at this picture: http://www.mivesto.de/images/opera95mail.png
The first 8 rows are the same account. The next row is also weired. The blank one doesn't do anything, but has an INBOX folder. No tooltips, nothing. Don't know, which account that should be or where it's coming from.

Nevermind. I check out weekly builds all the time, but the upgrade from 9.27 to 9.50 was the first time, I actually tried the new IMAP backend and M2 changes. So far, I like the increased speed of Opera 9.50 in comparison to 9.27 (which was rather unusable the last months because of the amount of mails and newsfeed messages). Thanks for the release.

Follow up on my wife's computer upgrade to 9.5, the bookmarks and all the rest are all fine, it just doesn't see the email. Under "help:about" the directory to mail points to the correct place. I tried to do an import but the email directory doesn't show up in the places to inport from. Do I need to create a mail account under 9.5 first?

The update of the maildatabase isn't working...Opera asked me to update,ich press OK und ann instantly there is message that the update was successful and i should restart...but after restart opera the question of the mailupdate comes again...
I don't use the mailclient..I just use the feeds and now i miss them...
Btw,i installed 9.5 to the same directory as 9.27,so opera should find my profiles...

I'm running Vista Ultimate x64
my mail directory:
E-Mail-Verzeichnis C:\Users\Raizm\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\mail
Should I just delete it,so Opera will created a new one?
I have no mailaccounts there...I just got some feeds...Are the feeds also saved there?

My symptoms are a little different, 9.5 is never asking about the mail conversion. My wife's computer is running Win2000. Two of my other computers were also running Win2000 and the third is Kubuntu 7.04. They all converted fine.

I got the window saying it was going to update my mail db. It started at about 9 days time :). That progress bar went away when a window that was loading took focus. Now I cannot tell whether the conversion is done or not. Not much CPU usage. Is there a way to recover the progress bar? Will the "you need to reboot" window still appear?

Is it possible to add a setting where emails with body size below 100k would be downloaded, and anything bigger would not be. This would be with Download message body... unchecked.
This is a great setting with Simple Mail extension for FF, would be great if Opera had it. Also, an option for Socks proxy would be great, as FF has it.

I used to have email and RSS feeds in Opera. But since ungrading to 9.5, each time it opens it presents the mail conversion dialog box, and clicking on the Yes button closes the box but does nothing else--no mail or newsgroup features available. Suggestions?

When I upgraded, all my feeds and chat info went away and I have to rebuild from scratch.

Thankfully I don't use Opera for mail or that would likely be gone too.

I started my upgrade about 4 hours ago and it's still converting the mail. I had about 155,000 emails.

Opera is keeping one of the cores at (or near) 100% Utilization.

Some of my "old" mail indices were corrupted (subject and body couldn't be retrieved).

It was a straight upgrade from 9.27 to 9.5 on OpenSuSe 10.2

I'm not seeing much disk activity (every couple of seconds)

Any idea how long I should wait before I either do an import from my backup or reload from the server (on a Pentium D805 - 2.66G)?

Just wanted to say, I've been using Opera since 4 and I'm excited to get a look at 9.5 and see what's new.

By the way, maybe putting this comment box on the top of the page might be better than at the bottom.

Oh, and the reCAPTCHA is tough! Reminds me of that Steve Martin joke: boy your drunk tests are hard.

Thanks!

John

I have a slightly different problem, but since it is related to this mail database update, I am posting it here. When I upgraded from 9.27 to 9.50, Opera asked me to update its mail database, even though I didn't use it as a mail client. I clicked OK, I restarted Opera, but the same message keeps popping up. The problem is that I cannot set up any new feeds, and I suppose I'm not wrong if I assume that the problem is related to the mail database update. My operating system is Windows XP Home SP2.

In a side note, when I upgraded Opera on my notebook, which runs at Windows Vista Home Premium SP1, Opera quite correctly didn't ask me to update the mail database, since I didn't have any mail accounts set up. So is the problem related to Windows XP, or to something else? I don't really want to use Opera as a mail client, but feeds are another issue.

I have upgraded from 9.27 to 9.5 (Vista Business SP1).
The first time Opera started it asked me to reformat the mail database, it took 10-20 seconds to do so and then I restarted Opera.
Then it would keep asking to reformat the database every time I restarted and take no time doing it.
I looked in the user directory, both local and roam, and could not find an opera folder there.
A global search for *.mbs files retrieved only few very small files.

I changed the mail directory in the opera.ini from 'program files\opera\mail' folder to 'C:\Opera 9\profile\mail' and now it does not ask anymore reformatting the database but I have lost all configuration and old messages.

What I fear is that the first reformatting deleted the old database and then failed to write the new one.
Please tell me that this is not true and that my mail is hidden somewhere (where?).

I also encountered a problem when upgrading to 9.5. Opera crashed after answering "yes" to the mail conversion question.
Since then, Opera asked the same question again at startup. At some point I was not able to start Opera without crashing at startup.
I solved this by deleting all files and directories in directory: ./Users/Home/Library/Application Support/Opera/Mail and restarted Opera which worked fine.
Since then, I did not have any problems and am enjoying Opera 9.50.
I am running Mac OS X 10.5.3 and not using the mail client of Opera.

It would be really useful if the upgrade process showed at least a link to a FAQ like the 'Known Issues' bit at the top of this page.
It took a lot of searching to find that the Send/Receive Stop button problem has a fix.
The forums didn't show any topics that seemed relevant to upgrade problems, or 9.5.

I agree with others that the lack of information on individual email account statuses is a big loss.

Another complaint is the new skins. Drab and unreadable. Selecting a different colour only changes the backgrounds. What happened to coloured icons? Has no-one heard of contrast?
Fortunately, I found the old skin and downloaded that. Not exciting, but at least it is readable.

It won't stop me using Opera, but it is the first time I have had problems with the upgrades.

I've tried the upgrade from 9.27 but Opera didn't ask to process the mail database.
I've imported them with the import feature but after import it has not said I had to close and reload Opera. Btw, feeds where not imported and also the filters I had created (which were very important) disn't appear.

Fortunately, I did a backup of the profile and mail folders, and of the Opera folder, so I've put those in their place and now I can enjoy my Older Opera 9.27 with all my mails in place, filters, feeds, etc.

My mail root directory is:

D:\Documents and Settings\io\Dati applicazioni\Opera\Opera\mail\

What I can do to upgrade without losing mails, filters and feeds?

In the previous message, I forgot to specify that my OS is Windows XP Pro SP2.

My upgrade seemed to go successfully - I can read old eamil. Problem is no new mail is being retrieved. Mail sends OK. I can retrieve email via Outlook Express but not Opera - if there's any email to retrieve it seems to get stuck in "Synchronizing" mode (though it doesn't hang up if there is no mail).

I'm running on XP.

Any idea what's wrong?

thanks-
James

After upgrading Opera, I can't see my email messages. It doesn't respond at all, when I click on Unread, or All messages, Received, Outbox, Sent, etc....I can still see that my email is being downloaded on Opera, and there are 344 messages.
What do I do? SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE!!!

After I upgraded opera 9.27 to 9.50 I can't see my mail. I mean - i see the list, time of receving, etc. but no text,no attachments. Please...

I'm using pop, and one account IMAP. IMAP was ok. I did upgrade, then I tried several times import. And nothing.

IMAP was not ok, it was the same as POP, sorry.

Hi all - just a note about my experience of upgrading from 9.27 to 9.50 on the latest Kubuntu distribution - when asked whether I wanted the mail and feed database to be updated, answering yes caused Opera to freeze for a few hours with no sign of anything happening except the CPU hammering. After a wait and increasing sense of impending doom (yes, I use Opera Mail...) I killed Opera and tried again (having belatedly backed up my mail directory, hoping that no damage had been done, after reading this forum page [on Firefox...]) Restarting Opera hit the same problem again and again, until I followed a hunch and answered NO, changed my homepage to one that had no Flash elements and then restarted Opera and answered YES... Voila - database updated, progress bar and all - restarted Opera as requested and everything is now working hunkydory. Strange, but in the world of Linux, I'm getting used to the game! Still kicking myself for ripping ahead into upgrading without checking for issues first - slow learner on that front. But, so far so good in 9.50 after a morning of fun and frozen screens :-)

Upgraded to 9.50... No backup.
Was using Opera to store all my emails.
Had over 50000 messages.
Now have only 140.
Very frustrating.
I trust there is a way to recover those lost messages.
Suggestions?

Thanks.

Hi there! I have updated my Opera 9.27 to Opera 9.50 and converted all my mail to Opera 9.5 format. But now I discovered, that I don't like 9.50 version and want to return to 9.27. Does anybody know, how I can convert my mail back, because Opera 9.27 do not support current format of mail? :(

I had successfully upgraded to Opera 9.5 from Opera 9.27 on Vista. I liked the new version. However, couple of days ago, Opera crashed. After that, Opera does not start at all. The memory usage goes as high as 600 MB though the CPU usage is kept around 60%. I have no idea where to begin to recover my Opera.

I updated our 2 XP computers to Opera 9.51

I very much regret that because of the loss of the Check/Send activity indicator. We have 256K DSL and large files take some time to download or send from/to our ISP's mail server. Dial-uppers must really be torqued off. How are we supposed to know when Opera Mail is finished checking and sending our mail? I want my active Check/Send button back.

I did the suggested Reset of the tool bars but that did not make the Check/Send button an activity indicator again.

Luckily I did a disk image just before updating to Opera 9.51 on my wife's XP computer so I can restore to that point and go back to 9.26
Unfortunately not so on my XP computer nor on my Ubuntu computer. Because 9.51 converted my emails I am stuck with the new 9.51 and I don't like it.

Also on both XP computers the Mail would not download after installing 9.51. I got a popup message on both saying that the server responded but it did not connect. By clicking on the message box DETAILS and changing the AUTO (APOP) to NONE it worked. But I guarentee that most users I know would not have a clue about how to get their email working again in Opera 9.51

Wyhog

Hello.

I'm just upgraded Opera 9.27 to 9.51.

I've heard about the problems regarding mail-issues, so I delayed the upgrade.

I thought 9.51 will be fine, as 9.5 converted mails correctly at the office.

At home now I got THE problem.

mail directory is there, old files in it, comes the question at start, click yes, and nothing happens then, and there is no Mails/accounts menu active and there is no mailing.

Checked about: directory, thats ok.

Tried the import solution, it comes quickly at the end 0 mails imported.
All I got the partners and mail-settings.

Anything beside mail, all went well, got bookmarks, appearance (buttons), just like it has to be.

I trusted and used this cool browser for many years, but now Im very upset, how a good thing like opera just could do this to me. :(

Please, help me! :(

I use WinXP SP2.

SMART SUGGESTION (IMHO): Because of the fact this new Opera must change the mail format, so bad processing of the mail directory may eventually result in a bad mail archive destruction, the initial "mail processing" step should include an automatic backup of the stuff it will change, so that no one risks to loose a single message of the beloved mail archive.

This should be included from the next Opera release, it's not so difficult to code on most platforms.

The initial processing time will be bigger, because it will do a tar.gz or whatever of the huge mail dir, but this is not such a big problem if it can save users from the pain to wake up and discover that their mail archive is gone and lost forever.

After the processing step, Opera should start and will suggest to the user to look around and check if everything is in place regarding mails, then when the user closes Opera it has to ask "I wisely made a backup of your old mail directory here (link to the file): if everything is in place, I can delete it now if you want - DELETE IT NOW / ASK ME NEXT TIME".

Just my two euros.

Am I the only one having Flash problems with 9.51?

If I have a Flash video playing, say a youtube but it does it on others too, and I click on another video link to abort the first video and start the new one, Opera hangs. It responds to no clicks, the processor goes to 80-90% use for Opera. The only way to stop it is to either kill the Opera process or turn off the power.

Also if a flash video is playing and you close that tab on the Opera browser, the Flash video continues to download all the way to its natural end, as indicated by my network activity monitor.

Using Ubuntu 8.04 Linux, Opera 9.51, Flash 9.0.124,0

I've gone back to Opera 9.50b2 because of this, the lack of a mail download/upload activity indicator on the toolbars, and other instability problems of 9.51

Mail Search:
I am having problems with mai search. I display the "Received" list, enter a search term, e.g. "at&t", and get a long list of messages most of which do not contain the search term.

Using the mail>search menu choice things are a litle better, but I can see no pattern in what is going wrong.

Has anyone else run into this?

Entering "at&t" should list all mails containing an "at" and a "t" as a word. The "t" seems to match "'t" as in "doesn't" and "don't" as well (it probably should not), so it will match quite a few english eMails.